[New Englander]

Anybody that don't like/want the free Budweiser please send your unopened ration to me. Thank You

[ohiosbestus]

I am curious about your family beer makers. I was born and raised in Columbus Ohio. GO BUCKS !

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The US now has the largest wealth disparity in its history and the highest of the 1st world countries. It was NOT that way in the 1950s. It IS very dangerous because it could lead to a US Dictatorship.

Compounded by the fact that corporate execs, and those in the higher pay area, restructured their pays during the pandemic heights, insuring they lost nothing and in fact made more money while shuttering doors and laying off workers, expanding the disparity.

And those who "have" consider this a good thing, but you are correct......it is extremely dangerous.

CEO Pay Surged in a Year of Upheaval and Leadership Challenges - WSJ

C.E.O. Pay Remains Stratospheric, Even at Companies Battered by Pandemic - The New York Times

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Uh, I hope you are kidding, because - uh, no. It would be horrible. While I may completely disagree with those that choose to not be vaccinated, and I think that they are putting others lives at risk, I would never wish them to die because of that.

I don't wish the unvaccinated to die. It is just a fact that about 2% of them WILL die and some will suffer large amounts of pain and LARGE hospital bills. And some of them will be the unvaccinated children under 12 years of age. And there likely WILL be long term suffering for some of the unvaccinated. You can tell that this is happening because although DEATHS due to CV is down in the US, it is NOT zero. CV is NOT OVER yet in the US and the world. These are just FACTS that have nothing to do with me. I wish that CV had NEVER happened to anyone!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by stanley

Even sarcastically, please do not call me your friend, people might get the wrong idea

Sure, if you like. Then, I will just refer to you as the "man with the funny forehead". Sounds like the name of a James Bond movie!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Compounded by the fact that corporate execs, and those in the higher pay area, restructured their pays during the pandemic heights, insuring they lost nothing and in fact made more money while shuttering doors and laying off workers, expanding the disparity.

And those who "have" consider this a good thing, but you are correct......it is extremely dangerous.

CEO Pay Surged in a Year of Upheaval and Leadership Challenges - WSJ

C.E.O. Pay Remains Stratospheric, Even at Companies Battered by Pandemic - The New York Times

Also, the heads of Colleges and Universities and their staffs have years ago decided that they should be paid like CEOs of corporations. Even college football coaches make 6 million / year. This has made colleges largely unaffordable to the average high school student with good grades and without extremely rich parents. It was NOT this way in the 1960s. Today college students take out LARGE loans that take some over 20 years to pay back. What this does overall to US society is decrease UPWARD MOBILITY and decrease QUALITY OF LIFE. The US is ranked around 30th in the world in these qualities today. England is about 11th. The US was in the top ten in the 50s and 60s. What happened........there are MANY details - but, overall the elitists (top 10%) won, and America LOST!!!!!!! That's one reason why Americans are having FEWER children now than in the 1950s.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I don't wish the unvaccinated to die. It is just a fact that about 2% of them WILL die and some will suffer large amounts of pain and LARGE hospital bills. And some of them will be the unvaccinated children under 12 years of age. And there likely WILL be long term suffering for some of the unvaccinated. You can tell that this is happening because although DEATHS due to CV is down in the US, it is NOT zero. CV is NOT OVER yet in the US and the world. These are just FACTS that have nothing to do with me. I wish that CV had NEVER happened to anyone!

Fact: children have accounted for less than .23% of Covid deaths
Fact: 87 % of Covid deaths occurred among obese or overweight people
Fact: on average, those who died with Covid had 2 or more of - diabetes, heart disease, lung disease or hypertension.
Fact: no one knows what the long term effects of mRNA vaccines will be.

There is zero factual evidence that 2% of those who did not receive the vaccine will die from Covid...

Once again, sorry to spoil your rant with actual facts...

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Compounded by the fact that corporate execs, and those in the higher pay area, restructured their pays during the pandemic heights, insuring they lost nothing and in fact made more money while shuttering doors and laying off workers, expanding the disparity.

And those who "have" consider this a good thing, but you are correct......it is extremely dangerous.

CEO Pay Surged in a Year of Upheaval and Leadership Challenges - WSJ

C.E.O. Pay Remains Stratospheric, Even at Companies Battered by Pandemic - The New York Times

In addition to the excesses of corporate executives - for years College and University heads (and their staffs) have paid themselves OBSCENELY large salaries. This has changed society in favor of elitists and away from equality and democracy. Average-income families with students making good grades in high school are priced out of the higher education market. Many College graduates are left with large loans that take as much as 20 years to pay off. It was NOT this bad in the 1950s. The end result is that the US is around 30th in UPWARD MOBILITY on the world lists.

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Fact: children have accounted for less than 3/100’s of 1% of Covid deaths
Fact: 87 % of Covid deaths occurred among obese or overweight people
Fact: on average, those who died with Covid had 2 or more of - diabetes, heart disease, lung disease or hypertension.
Fact: no one knows what the long term effects of mRNA vaccines will be.

There is zero factual evidence that 2% of those who did not receive the vaccine will die from Covid...

Once again, sorry to spoil your rant with actual facts...

There are actual facts and internet facts. Where and how were the facts collected ? Who actually did the counting and was it a controlled study.

But even simpler is context. Take your 87% overweight / obese statistics accounts for 87% of Covid deaths. But what wasn't said is :
According to statistics, over 70% of Americans adults are either overweight or obese. Thus the rate of Covid deaths would be 70% were overweight people even without a correlation to weight.

In the world of statistics one should bear in mind the old adage "Figures don’t lie, but liars figure".

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by rustyp

There are actual facts and internet facts. Where and how the facts where the facts collected ? Who actually did the counting and was it a controlled study.

But even simpler is context. Take your 87% overweight / obese statistics accounts for 87% of Covid deaths. But what wasn't said is :
According to statistics, over 70% of Americans adults are either overweight or obese. Thus the rate of Covid deaths would be overweight people even without a correlation to weight.

Yeah statistics are fun things. Like the children thing - how old is "child" by the statistic-collector's definition? Because, EVERYONE is someone's child. So are they talking legal minors under 16? Or anyone under the average age of puberty (12)? Or do they mean infants, toddlers, and newborns? And now that [political political political] are we including the children who haven't been born yet?

There are fewer people in this country that fall into the category of age (1-hour post-birth) to 12 years, than there are people that fall into the category of everyone else. So of course the percentage of kids who get sick and/or die from COVID-19 will be a fraction of the entire population of people who get sick and/or die from COVID-19.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Fact: children have accounted for less than .23% of Covid deaths
Fact: 87 % of Covid deaths occurred among obese or overweight people
Fact: on average, those who died with Covid had 2 or more of - diabetes, heart disease, lung disease or hypertension.
Fact: no one knows what the long term effects of mRNA vaccines will be.

There is zero factual evidence that 2% of those who did not receive the vaccine will die from Covid...

Once again, sorry to spoil your rant with actual facts...

The unvaccinated are dying of CV right now as we speak. if you were correct then CV deaths would be zero by now. They are NOT. The world IS begging for the US to give them the vaccine. How can you explain that????? Are you saying that the world IS wrong and you ARE right? I don't think so! I think that Russian-originated conspiracy theories are undermining the intelligence and common sense of the unvaccinated American people. And some local TV Land people are pushing those conspiracies and they are being very vocal about it for SOME (?) unknown reason?

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by rustyp

There are actual facts and internet facts. Where and how were the facts collected ? Who actually did the counting and was it a controlled study.

But even simpler is context. Take your 87% overweight / obese statistics accounts for 87% of Covid deaths. But what wasn't said is :
According to statistics, over 70% of Americans adults are either overweight or obese. Thus the rate of Covid deaths would be 70% were overweight people even without a correlation to weight.

In the world of statistics one should bear in mind the old adage "Figures don’t lie, but liars figure".

Per the CDC, the odds of being hospitalized with Covid are tripled if you are obese.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Yeah statistics are fun things. Like the children thing - how old is "child" by the statistic-collector's definition? Because, EVERYONE is someone's child. So are they talking legal minors under 16? Or anyone under the average age of puberty (12)? Or do they mean infants, toddlers, and newborns? And now that [political political political] are we including the children who haven't been born yet?

There are fewer people in this country that fall into the category of age (1-hour post-birth) to 12 years, than there are people that fall into the category of everyone else. So of course the percentage of kids who get sick and/or die from COVID-19 will be a fraction of the entire population of people who get sick and/or die from COVID-19.

Here, you can read it yourself:
https://services.aap.org/en/pages/20...l-data-report/

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Fact: children have accounted for less than .23% of Covid deaths
Fact: 87 % of Covid deaths occurred among obese or overweight people
Fact: on average, those who died with Covid had 2 or more of - diabetes, heart disease, lung disease or hypertension.
Fact: no one knows what the long term effects of mRNA vaccines will be.

There is zero factual evidence that 2% of those who did not receive the vaccine will die from Covid...

Once again, sorry to spoil your rant with actual facts...

As my favorite commercial says "Scoop, there it is!" We can all say "Swoop, there it is!"

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Also, the heads of Colleges and Universities and their staffs have years ago decided that they should be paid like CEOs of corporations. Even college football coaches make 6 million / year. This has made colleges largely unaffordable to the average high school student with good grades and without extremely rich parents. It was NOT this way in the 1960s. Today college students take out LARGE loans that take some over 20 years to pay back. What this does overall to US society is decrease UPWARD MOBILITY and decrease QUALITY OF LIFE. The US is ranked around 30th in the world in these qualities today. England is about 11th. The US was in the top ten in the 50s and 60s. What happened........there are MANY details - but, overall the elitists (top 10%) won, and America LOST!!!!!!! That's one reason why Americans are having FEWER children now than in the 1950s.

When the US Government decided to subsidize college tuition the colleges became for-profit and went insane raising tuition on the backs of students.

I am totally in favor of private colleges charging ANYTHING they want/

And state colleges/universities being no tuition. Investing in education is always a valuable investment. Burying students in debt is always a bad thing.

In my not so humble opinion.