[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

From what I understand, this "vaccine" works very differently than all other vaccines. Some doctors say that it's technically not a vaccine.

While vaccines give you immunity from contracting the virus, this one prevents the virus from using your body to replicate itself. If the virus can't replicate, it can't make you sick.

But it sounds to me, and I am not a doctor or scientist, that you may still contract the virus but it can't hurt you. So if you are carrying the virus, you can possibly transmit it to others. It seems to me that once everyone that wants to be vaccinated is, then we can stop wearing masks.

If there is a doctor or scientist on this forum that can explain this better or contradict what I'm saying, please do so.

[nancymiller217@yahoo.com]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

Two different topics.

Mask wearing and vaccination are not different topics. Wearing a mask is to protect others. (Even though most people still believe it protects them) Vaccination protects you, but it is necessary to build herd immunity—I.e., protecting everyone.

There are only 3 ways out of this:
Containment: no longer possible. That’s what lockdowns, social distancing, mask wearing were for. Didn’t work.
Infection: just let everyone get it. Unconscionable
Innoculation: get vaccinated, herd immunity.

The way I see it, mask wearing will continue until vaccines are widely available. After that, you will not be able to force the people who have acted to help protect everyone to continue wearing masks for those who will not protect themselves.

Many say this is like the seasonal flu. True. We do not force everyone to stay masked when individuals can opt to take a vaccine to protect themselves and others.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

Agree. Also, it is possible the 95% number is more like 60-70% when faced with the new virus mutations. So the idea is to get everyone vaccinated as soon as possible, because that gives the virus less of a chance to mutate. And in the meantime wear masks for the reasons stated above. If we can get everyone on board with that, we can defeat this thing. Scientists are exploring a booster shot to combat the mutations. Once we do that, scientists say we can reach herd immunity. This is better than letting people die to achieve herd immunity. It is estimated that if natural infection was used to reach herd immunity, in the US, 70% of the population would have to recover from Covid to halt the epidemic. If that many people were sick at once, the health care system would be overwhelmed. We've seen this happen in certain parts of the country. This amount of infection would lead to serious complications and millions of deaths, especially among older people and those with chronic conditions.

I would point out that the annual influenza vaccine is between 40% and 60% effective.

[msilagy]

Hahahaha "don't wear a mask, wear mask!" thats Fauci - seriously not my source of info

[rlcooper70]

There is no contradiction. After being vaccinated a person can harbor the virus in the nasopharynx for some time period and we don't yet know what is this period. The vaccinated person, when exposed to an infected person, can harbor the virus. There is an Israeli study going on that will give us raw data soon.

[La lamy]

Originally Posted by birdiebill

What it means to me is that the vaccine will protect us with up to 95% protection from getting sick from the Covid virus. We still have a 5% chance of getting sick. To get sick, the virus has to get inside our human cells. The vaccine is designed to prevent the virus from getting inside our cells. But, it is unknown if a virus can enter our respiratory tree (nose, mouth, airway, lungs), not be able to enter any of our cells, but then pass out of our respiratory tree and infect someone close to us who has not been vaccinated.

Bingo

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

I think someone else is the puppet here, and it isn't Fauci.

Unlike a lot of people, Dr. Fauci is willing to change his advice based on the latest science. It's pretty sad that a large number of people think that admitting when you're wrong, or changing your mind, based on new information, science and facts - is considered a weakness.

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by birdiebill

What it means to me is that the vaccine will protect us with up to 95% protection from getting sick from the Covid virus. We still have a 5% chance of getting sick. To get sick, the virus has to get inside our human cells. The vaccine is designed to prevent the virus from getting inside our cells. But, it is unknown if a virus can enter our respiratory tree (nose, mouth, airway, lungs), not be able to enter any of our cells, but then pass out of our respiratory tree and infect someone close to us who has not been vaccinated.

Guess you haven't heard the percentage of protection has been lowered to 65%. It's about control.I don't believe anything our government says, their truth percentage rating is less than 10%, but still it seems a too large percentage of our population are still naive enough to think the government and media says anything that is close to the whole truth. The only real truth is darker days are coming.

[merrymini]

Really? Maybe people have been locked up too long. Fauci cannot be trusted to know anything. The medical organizations like the WHO has proven to be a political machine first and last. These shots have not gone through the vigorous testing they should have and people believe the news media. Really?

[Get real]

Wow..all these experts on here giving us their "expert" opinion. Cuz I heard it on TV. Yes Puppets.

[Tom2172]

Fauci is a poor choice for an expert, last 20 years he has wasted billions on aids which only effects a minority of people. But aids is the celebrity cause de jour and allowed Fauci to hang out with Bono! Other disease much more deadly to greater numbers of Americans but were vastly under funded because celebrities only cared about aids.
Fauci also sent $15 million to China’s wuhan lab with idea of creating corona virus based on bats that would spread immunity to aids.
Is it the Corona now infecting the world? Maybe or just a weaponized version!
We can do better then Fauci, fire him so he can hang out with Bono full time

[robbroyy]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Agree with you about that. We love cruising too and really miss it. Having to wear a mask most of the day is not on my hit parade when it comes to vacation.

Can you imagine the tan lines after a cruise with masks??

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by Nevermore

Your misunderstanding of science does not make the science incorrect. And your conspiracy theories are ridiculous.

What science
If you want to look at science look at the Frankenstein shot they are giving everyone

[WesMan]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Twice on TV I have seen the video of Dr. Fauci with his message about being vaccinated. In the video, Dr. Fauci is encouraging people to be vaccinated and what he says is confusing to me. He said "being vaccinated will not only protect you but it will protect your family and also protect your community".

My confusion lies with the fact that we are being informed to continue to wear masks and social distance even after we have received full immunization and achieve immunity. This is because it is not known yet if an immunized person can still transmit the virus.

I'm not sure what to make of this as they are opposing views.

Dr. Fauci is always causing confusion!!!! I do not believe anything he has to say!!!!! He is another political Hack!!

[Redsmom]

Yes, we have come a long way from just “flatten the curve.”