[graciegirl]

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AND Senior Citizen....Does Mr. Senior Citizen know how lucky he is????

What a cook!

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

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Not used in Canada.

AND Senior Citizen....Does Mr. Senior Citizen know how lucky he is????

What a cook!

I hope so Gracie. In three more years we'll be married fifty years.

I was just thinking, while folding laundry upstairs, that when we first moved to Vermont.........how different things were from New Jersey.

Down there EVERYONE PUT ON A BIG SPREAD for the holidays (Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas, birthdays, anniversaries, graduations, engagements, etc.)

Maybe it was an "ethnic" thing or a "city" thing.

We were in alien territory when we moved up here. Small town living was great and it was a wonderful place to raise the children, so we adapted.

However, we had two factions (the third being the transplanted out of staters like ourselves).

First there were the salt of the earth long time residents whose roots went deep in Vermont...........then there were the Hippy types (it was early 1970) who were usually rich kids who went to colleges like Skidmore and others.....who turned their backs on their banker dads and middle class upbringing to "live off the land"..........they were total vegetarians and a lot of their food was tasty. One friend brought me a mushroom lasagna after I gave birth to our second child. She wasn't even Italian and it was very very good. She made her own ketchup from her garden and like the other hippies up here, was kind, friendly but "far out" in their political views..........they bought barns and converted them as living quarters......wore the bandannas on their head, bluejeans....definitely not the MAD MEN dresses we were used to, working in the city.

The long time country folk and "townies" were really experienced in putting up their garden of veggies for the winter, slaughtering the pigs they raised, the chickens they kept, etc.......and shooting the yearly deer for venison...........they also lived off the land.....as their forebears had before them.

Each couldn't have been so far apart in their world views nor in their food preferences.

The locals ate lots of HAM, lots of butter and cream, baked tons of pies and cakes. Lots of CRISCO for the icing on the cakes....I remember that. The hippies ate their home made granola and sprouts and veggies..........

Oh, the locals also had "exotic" foods like squirrel stew, possum stew, etc. which they'd bring up to hunting camp in the fall.

Guess what? The ones we knew are all still alive.....both the hippies and the hippy wannabee's.........and the good old boys and gals.......

However, the ones who ate the vegan type diet........are very wrinkled now, whereas the others have plumper and moister looking skin.

Go figure, right?

We've always known how "the other half" lives........and we've traveled all over this country. Everyone is different and that's the way it should remain........otherwise, it would be a pretty boring country. For those who say, "it's my way or the highway".......I think the hippies would tell them to chill out........if that's their own path...then follow it, but don't try to convert others......it won't work . For the life of me, I can't remember one hippy trying to force their lifestyle on us.

We know people who were born or raised out west on ranches.
Now, don't tell them not to eat a steak or "barbecue" or pulled pork.

Now, what really was weird was that I had to keep two wardrobes for my kids......one to "fit in" in town and one to go and visit the relatives in Jersey..............but we made the right choice in staying here to raise our family.......it was peaceful, everyone knows each other from cradle to the grave.......and I'd say they are pretty accepting folks. Vermonters and the neighboring states' residents are all very self sufficient people....as far as food growing, food preservation and putting up wood for the winter....and helping each other.

We have some pretty aged people........in town....100, 96, etc.
I still say it's good genes......it's in their D.N.A. They did keep an active MIND which is probably more important that eating or not eating this or that.

The ones who seem to be passing away at a younger age.......I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut they got on the medical bandwagon and "over medicated" with all the pharmaceuticals out there........whose side effects are worse than the disease or ailment itself.

First they tell you take "this" for your osteoporosis and in the next breath they tell you it can destroy your jawbone or break your thighbone.
It's very difficult for consumers to make decisions......and it doesn't pay to worry all the time about our health.

Just for fun and educational purposes, I'd like one of the vegans to give me a "menu" of sorts that he or she would serve to their visiting family at say Easter time or springtime or Christmas time, etc. or Thanksgiving.

Replace the Easter glazed spiral ham with "what?????"
Replace the candied yams with ? I like plain roasted sweet potatoes.
Replace the babka and sweet whipped butter with ????
Replace the lemon meringue pie with ????

A nice fruit salad would be acceptable; a crudite plate of raw veggies.
What about that ham? A lentil loaf?

Ditto for the Thanksgiving turkey, cornbread stuffing, sausage stuffing???? Mashed potatoes? Cranberry sauce is o.k........
No more green bean casserole? Pumpkin pie is o.k. Apple pie.

[jimbo2012]

You guys make me laugh to think we eat like that or have any food issues on holidays, happy hours or going out for dinner.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by senior citizen

However, the ones who ate the vegan type diet........are very wrinkled now, whereas the others have plumper and moister looking skin.

For one thing, a lot of hippies are in love with sunbathing and, by doing so, they turn their skin to leather. For another, who said their diet was good? Not you! And not me! So what does all of this prove? Nothing, except to justify your current "moderation" diet. The others you mentioned have plumper better looking skin because they're fat! Older people who are fat generally don't have wrinkles because their fatness stretches out their skin. However, you don't have to be fat to pull that off. I'm very lean and unwrinkled.

For those who say, "it's my way or the highway".......I think the hippies would tell them to chill out........if that's their own path...then follow it, but don't try to convert others......it won't work . For the life of me, I can't remember one hippy trying to force their lifestyle on us.

Now, come on, get serious. You're insinuating that someone on this board has told you that "it's my way or the highway"? We give advice as to what we think is the best way to slow down the aging process. When people challenge it, as they usually do, we try to provide some scientific proof. You are still free to eat whatever you want. (Maybe your conscience is bothering you because you feel you're not eating as healthfully as you should .)

We have some pretty aged people........in town....100, 96, etc.
I still say it's good genes......it's in their D.N.A. They did keep an active MIND which is probably more important that eating or not eating this or that.

Every town has "some pretty aged people". How is that anything new?

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I am coming to the scientific conclusion that a vegan diet adds to narrow mindedness and loss of a sense of humor.

I have only now just defined the problem.

I am gathering facts.

You read my mind Gracie...........

I do believe it also makes people argumentative and intolerant of others trying to explain their own viewpoint of how they've experienced the aging process in their own immediate environment.........

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by senior citizen

You read my mind Gracie...........

I do believe it also makes people argumentative and intolerant of others trying to explain their own viewpoint of how they've experienced the aging process in their own immediate environment.........

Perhaps what causes "intolerance" is when people throw around scientific terms that they can't back up. For example, you have said you believe everything is written in one's genes. The word "gene" is a scientific term that wouldn't exist if we didn't have science. But when there's no science to back up your statement, except anecdotes, it's plain to see that you're not talking science at all. If not science, what's left? Faith?

It's misleading and dishonest to use a scientific term when science is not what is believed in. I see no evidence whatsoever that you believe in science. It seems like what is believed in is faith-based predetermination.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by senior citizen

When one is living alone like a hermit with no one to cook for but themselves.........then they can eat whatever they choose.

However, when they live with a partner or have a family, or a family that visits them....friends that visit them...........then they have to accomodate everyone's tastes...........all of us have had to be flexible with various family and friends' food preferences in the past possibly twenty years........prior to that, people just ate and had a good time.

The subject of this thread is: "Do you have a plan to 'defeat' or slow down aging?" The fact that you have to compromise because of a partner, family and friends is another issue.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

You guys make me laugh to think we eat like that or have any food issues on holidays, happy hours or going out for dinner.

I would love to see two days worth of suggestions/recipes on what you consider healthy eating. And Jimbo, I mean that in a truly constructive and non-critical way.

I would love to be able to optimize my healthy eating habits, while still enjoying some yummy tastes, and hopefully, ease of preparation.

[jimbo2012]

That's bit too much typing, I'm thinking about doing a monthly seminar if I would get enough interest it.

But if that's doesn't happen you're invited for dinner.

[jimbo2012]

Ok, for breakfast

Several options but there are plenty more

whole grain cereal post grape nuts or Kashi 7 whole grain with soy milk or almond milk, fruits on side or on top.

There are ways to make pancakes & waffles healthy.
Use whole wheat or rice flour add flax seed, Braggs nutritional yeast, no eggs no regular milk, but almond milk is fine.
100% pure maple syrup.

Ezekiel food for life bagels with humus or pure fruit jelly or jams sugar free.

also oatmeal not instant cooked in 3 minutes, maple syrup and fruit.

[BaylorBear]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

Ok, for breakfast

Several options but there are plenty more

whole grain cereal post grape nuts or Kashi 7 whole grain with soy milk or almond milk, fruits on side or on top.

There are ways to make pancakes & waffles healthy.
Use whole wheat or rice flour add flax seed, Braggs nutritional yeast, no eggs no regular milk, but almond milk is fine.
100% pure maple syrup.

Ezekiel food for life bagels with humus or pure fruit jelly or jams sugar free.

also oatmeal not instant cooked in 3 minutes, maple syrup and fruit.

Jimbo, do you happen to have a recipe for the pancakes?? I would love to have it!!

[jimbo2012]

To be honest I don't have a clue what the recipe was, had to ask my better half.
I only know how to eat them.

1/2 cup Arrowhead Hills organic oat bran pancake mix
1 cup King Arther 100% whole wheat flour or buckwheat flour
1 tblesp Red mill golden flaxseed meal (egg re-placer)
1 tblesp Braggs nutritional yeast
1 cup + almond milk

Pour batter into hot non stick pan, no oil etc.
you can add blueberries or apple sauce to batter.

100% pure maple syrup as U wish.

coffee tea .....

U can make waffles with same

[pooh]

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[BaylorBear]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

To be honest I don't have a clue what the recipe was, had to ask my better half.
I only know how to eat them.

1/2 cup Arrowhead Hills organic oat bran pancake mix
1 cup King Arther 100% whole wheat flour or buckwheat flour
1 tblesp Red mill golden flaxseed meal (egg re-placer)
1 tblesp Braggs nutritional yeast
1 cup + almond milk

Pour batter into hot non stick pan, no oil etc.
you can add blueberries or apple sauce to batter.

100% pure maple syrup as U wish.

coffee tea .....

U can make waffles with same

Thanks a bunch!! These sound yummy and look it too!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

In order to stop aging, I'm planning to die some day.