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I am looking for opinions from doctors as to why there is no cure for cancer. I have read (have NO links nor dates) the following: that it could be because the research is limited to a certain type of research, limiting think-outside-the-box research; also that pharmacology is a strong lobby against research.

I'm looking for opinions from professionals. Tx for any responses.
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I am looking for opinions from doctors as to why there is no cure for cancer. I have read (have NO links nor dates) the following: that it could be because the research is limited to a certain type of research, limiting think-outside-the-box research; also that pharmacology is a strong lobby against research.

I'm looking for opinions from professionals. Tx for any responses.
I believe there has been a cure for decades, but there’s no money in a cure. Big pharma makes billions off cancer patients....IMO
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I believe there has been a cure for decades, but there’s no money in a cure. Big pharma makes billions off cancer patients....IMO
I think that would be a pretty big secret to keep for decades but I'm no doctor...... although I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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I believe there has been a cure for decades, but there’s no money in a cure. Big pharma makes billions off cancer patients....IMO
Everytime I hear someone say this or I read it, I could bite. There is no one in "Big Pharma" which by the way is the business and industry that researches and manufactures medicines to help us stay well and get well, there is no person who works in the large pharmaceutical companies that do not have someone or someones who have had cancer and someone who has died from cancer, among the people they care about or in their families. The stuff that Oncologist's prescribe for cancer are not on a long, long, list. They are the chemo's that kill cells and cancer at the same time, and just about kill you. ASK ME WHY I KNOW. There are anti-nausea drugs and steroids, but certainly not a huge list of "medicines" that are the center of their business. The highest selling drugs are Statins and they are worth their weight in gold. They have greatly reduced death by heart disease since they were introduced.

In my opinion what you said IS A DUMB CONSPIRACY THEORY......based on the real fact that Pharmacy manufacturers do charge very high prices. BUT they have the gold. And we need the gold. Wish I knew how to fix this so prices are more affordable, but people who work in this industry ARE NOT EVIL. AND they are not keeping the cures for the dozens of diseases all listed under the heading of cancer. Some do have prevention now. Pre-adolescents can be vaccinated against the virus that causes Cervical and ovarian cancer. Hodgkin's Lymphoma has some life saving treatments. Breast Cancer Survivors are increasing. Cancer is a number of different diseases and I believe how to stop them rests in Genetic Research. Your children will live to see them vanquished and we can than thank the people who have invested so much money in research.
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Everytime I hear someone say this or I read it, I could bite. There is no one in "Big Pharma" which by the way is the business and industry that researches and manufactures medicines to help us stay well and get well, there is no person who works in the large pharmaceutical companies that do not have someone or someones who have had cancer and someone who has died from cancer, among the people they care about or in their families. The stuff that Oncologist's prescribe for cancer are not on a long, long, list. They are the chemo's that kill cells and cancer at the same time, and just about kill you. ASK ME WHY I KNOW. There are anti-nausea drugs and steroids, but certainly not a huge list of "medicines" that are the center of their business. The highest selling drugs are Statins and they are worth their weight in gold. They have greatly reduced death by heart disease since they were introduced.

In my opinion what you said IS A DUMB CONSPIRACY THEORY......based on the real fact that Pharmacy manufacturers do charge very high prices. BUT they have the gold. And we need the gold. Wish I knew how to fix this so prices are more affordable, but people who work in this industry ARE NOT EVIL. AND they are not keeping the cures for the dozens of diseases all listed under the heading of cancer. Some do have prevention now. Pre-adolescents can be vaccinated against the virus that causes Cervical and ovarian cancer. Hodgkin's Lymphoma has some life saving treatments. Breast Cancer Survivors are increasing. Cancer is a number of different diseases and I believe how to stop them rests in Genetic Research. Your children will live to see them vanquished and we can than thank the people who have invested so much money in research.
I basically agree with you but consider this

I take two hypertension drugs to maintain my blood pressure but no long term fix.

I also take a statin but no long term fix

Take metformin for diabetes no long term fix.

I think it is great that the drug companies have developed excellent maintenance drugs but nothing that cures any of the above.

My wife has her own issues and takes daily drugs for her conditions.

Grateful that they are available but makes me wonder if their is a cure that could be developed.
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And in answer to all of you above, these are the things I've either read about, heard about, or are rattling around in my mind. I was hoping to hear from an MD or a DO or a medical researcher as to what their opinions are. But I thank you for your opinions.
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I basically agree with you but consider this

I take two hypertension drugs to maintain my blood pressure but no long term fix.

I also take a statin but no long term fix

Take metformin for diabetes no long term fix.

I think it is great that the drug companies have developed excellent maintenance drugs but nothing that cures any of the above.

My wife has her own issues and takes daily drugs for her conditions.

Grateful that they are available but makes me wonder if their is a cure that could be developed.
Preventing disease and death to me is very important. I don't think that wellness is as simple as finding a pill or treatment to cure something. We all will die. Living longer in a body that allows you to find peace and joy in some things seems like a pretty good deal.
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Preventing disease and death to me is very important. I don't think that wellness is as simple as finding a pill or treatment to cure something. We all will die. Living longer in a body that allows you to find peace and joy in some things seems like a pretty good deal.
So far so good. At age 79 I take no meds and over my lifetime have been careful to follow a good diet and exercise regularly. I avoid processed foods such as Velveeta like the plague. I also avoid cheap fatty meats. That has probably helped.

Originally Velveeta was made from real cheese. Today, it's mainly whey protein concentrate, milk protein concentrate, milk, fat, and preservatives. By the Food and Drink Administration's standards, that's not real cheese—which is why the FDA forced Kraft to change its label from "cheese spread" to "cheese product."

Besides being high in calories, Velveeta is high in fat and sodium. The nutritional information on the package shows that the product has 6 g of fat per serving, but with 32 servings per box, you'll consume 196 g of fat should you use an entire box of regular Velveeta in a cheese dip or recipe.

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They say the same thing about diabetes. I take 2 different insulin’s as my doctor wanted me off all pills.

As for cancer, I am on a daily pill for 21 of 28 days. Those 21 pills run about $15,000 a month. In addition I have chemo currently once a month but it was once a week for about 16 weeks. Each visit runs about $50,000. Luckily for me I only need to come up with $6000 at the beginning of the year and then everything is free for the rest of the year. Of the $6000, $700 was covered by one drug company and I am waiting on another drug company to see how much of a $4900 bill they will cover.

It is big business for sure. A cure would be great but keeping me alive is working. Was diagnosed at age 49, was forced to retire at 56.
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I basically agree with you but consider this

I take two hypertension drugs to maintain my blood pressure but no long term fix.

I also take a statin but no long term fix

Take metformin for diabetes no long term fix.

I think it is great that the drug companies have developed excellent maintenance drugs but nothing that cures any of the above.

My wife has her own issues and takes daily drugs for her conditions.

Grateful that they are available but makes me wonder if their is a cure that could be developed.
Society in general does not maintain themselves in good health....over weight, too much salt, not enough exercise, over stressed, poor diets, etc. That’s what most of those pills are for.
PS..I am no different
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I guess we don't have doctors who read TOTV! Still hoping for OP to get responses from them, it's a very good question.
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The little known truth is that most cancer is a result of the choices we make in life with regard to diet, exercise and sleep. This has been established by several studies on more rural populations where cancer and heart disease were close to non existent such as The China Study.

Even after you have cancer there are many things you can do to greatly increase your chances of survival that most doctors will not mention. ACS recommends eating more plants, It's Easy to Add Fruits and Vegetables to Your Diet. They do not recommend eating more cheeseburgers.

Hands down the best explanation of how we can fight cancer that I have found was written by a Doctor who has survived Stage 4 cancer with a 2 year projected life expectation. He gives an understandable explanation on how cancer starts and spreads. It is a very well researched, uplifting and informative book.(many links to pubmed). I highly recommend it to anyone affected personally affected by or like me who wants to avoid cancer. He does not encourage avoiding chemo and radiation therapy.

Amazon.com
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So far so good. At age 79 I take no meds and over my lifetime have been careful to follow a good diet and exercise regularly. I avoid processed foods such as Velveeta like the plague. I also avoid cheap fatty meats. That has probably helped.

Originally Velveeta was made from real cheese. Today, it's mainly whey protein concentrate, milk protein concentrate, milk, fat, and preservatives. By the Food and Drink Administration's standards, that's not real cheese—which is why the FDA forced Kraft to change its label from "cheese spread" to "cheese product."

Besides being high in calories, Velveeta is high in fat and sodium. The nutritional information on the package shows that the product has 6 g of fat per serving, but with 32 servings per box, you'll consume 196 g of fat should you use an entire box of regular Velveeta in a cheese dip or recipe.

Foods that Could Cause Cancer and Preventative Measures - Facty Health
Do you see a Doctor at least once a year and have blood drawn? If so, has your doctor prescribed medications and you decided not to take them?
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The little known truth is that most cancer is a result of the choices we make in life with regard to diet, exercise and sleep. This has been established by several studies on more rural populations where cancer and heart disease were close to non existent such as The China Study.

Even after you have cancer there are many things you can do to greatly increase your chances of survival that most doctors will not mention. ACS recommends eating more plants, It's Easy to Add Fruits and Vegetables to Your Diet. They do not recommend eating more cheeseburgers.

Hands down the best explanation of how we can fight cancer that I have found was written by a Doctor who has survived Stage 4 cancer with a 2 year projected life expectation. He gives an understandable explanation on how cancer starts and spreads. It is a very well researched, uplifting and informative book.(many links to pubmed). I highly recommend it to anyone affected personally affected by or like me who wants to avoid cancer. He does not encourage avoiding chemo and radiation therapy.

Amazon.com
The Genetics of Cancer - National Cancer Institute
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There are two ways that diseases happen, one is genetic and the other is environment which includes what we put into our mouths and how active we are. The first part is very evident in people who abuse their bodies and never have any issues, a medical person says to them, you just have great genes. Who does not know the person that can eat pie and ice cream every night and never gain a pound. The other part is the person who has genetic tendencies and then eats and drinks all the wrong things and never gets off the couch. I was with someone in a recovery room who had stents put in after a heart attack and asked the cardiologist what is the best diet and he said vegan for heart disease. He was telling that to a person who was from TX and wanted meat and gravy every day. There is no magic pill but there may be someday soon genetic interventions that at least help part of it. A change of lifestyle and behavior is much more difficult, your behavior is set probably when you are a toddler and does not change unless you have a significant emotional event in your life and even that does not always change behavior.
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