[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by bestmickey

My vacation recently started in TV. I am looking around at different areas of TV and since I recalled some previous posts regarding some complaints of deed compliance violations, I'm just driving around to view some of those noted. The first one I drove by is in Lynnhaven, Livingston Loop. To see what the issues were I'll give the link to some previous posts on the topic: When the build out ends? See Post #25, with some others after that.

If the above link doesn't work directly, I suggest you cut/paste it into your browser.

What an ugly mess this is! The people put some type of fake grass or an indoor/outdoor carpet on a section of the front lawn (I don't think that meets anyone's deed compliance based on other posts I've read of fake grass). The homeowners also put a pretty large rectangle of some sort of mulch, nothing of much design, and it's more towards the street than it is the home. There's a bench sitting out there. I'm not certain of all what deed compliance issues are there, but previous posters on the topic said there are many. If I understood things correctly, I think it was said that as the home currently "sits", there's not enough percentage of sod out front. All I can say is, it's ugly.

I fully recognize we all have different opinions of what is ugly versus what is beautiful. But as a potential (eventual) Villager, I'm wondering why, if these are deed compliance violations, why isn't The Village Deed Compliance Unit (or whatever the official name of the group is) doing something about it? After all, previous posters indicated that complaints were filed about the home. I sure would hate to have those people as my neighbor. As the saying goes, "There goes the neighborhood". Who else in the area nearby sees this mess (in my opinion), and will choose to do something similar of their own design? Heck, if deed compliance violations aren't dealt with, what's to stop anyone from doing whatever they want? I would think some property values in the nearby homes are going to suffer. I am personally in favor of regulations for maintaining homes. That insures that properties maintain their $$ value. That would be very important for me.

What can you do in such a situation, since it appears TV is not being responsive to complaints? I'm not a sue-happy person and never have sued anyone. But, my property values are important to me. If the Deed Compliance Unit doesn't resolve the problem(s), can you sue The Villages because of lack of enforcement? Or, what could you do?

I drove by and saw two colors of pebbles or stones and they had some St. Patrick's day decorations out. I saw a fountain and a bench which may be against restrictions but it wasn't unkempt. Maybe not everyone would choose to do their lawn that way, but it was well maintained. I didn't like the stone edging ...two kinds and too much and hated the golfer figures on the window shutters.

[PennBF]

I did not want to comment on the complaints until/unless I actually
could write after seeing the problem. I did see the area that is being complained about and can't understand why Community Watch, Janet Tutt's
org or someone can't do anything about it as there are obvious violations of deed restrictions. It is not necessary to go over all of the alleged eye sores and there are quite a few. Given what I saw I would suggest the neighbors attend the next District CDD meeting and bring a petition to get some resolution from the CDD reps. Also, would call on Janet Tutt and demand, (not ask) for some serious attention to your issues. It will be interesting to see if they have the courage to take action and enforce the deed restrictions if they are being violated.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by PennBF

I did not want to comment on the complaints until/unless I actually
could write after seeing the problem. I did see the area that is being complained about and can't understand why Community Watch, Janet Tutt's
org or someone can't do anything about it as there are obvious violations of deed restrictions. It is not necessary to go over all of the alleged eye sores and there are quite a few. Given what I saw I would suggest the neighbors attend the next District CDD meeting and bring a petition to get some resolution from the CDD reps. Also, would call on Janet Tutt and demand, (not ask) for some serious attention to your issues. It will be interesting to see if they have the courage to take action and enforce the deed restrictions if they are being violated.

What did you dislike? Or rather what were deed restrictions? Dutchgirl said it wasn't that bad and that it was not neglected.

[thistrucksforyou]

Originally Posted by Oren L Miller

A picture is worth a thousand words. Maybe someone could post a pic so all of us can see it????

I agree....lets see the evidence....

[GaryW]

As far as I can see there has to be an end of the bickering here.

Here is the bottom line: If you are so upset with the yard in question, do not like how it makes the other yards look, it is degrading to the property value, it hurts all know to mankind and maybe some from other worlds........

Then maybe the following should of been done. just me thinking out loud this is.


Then you should of drove by the house,, seen the yard and stopped your car got out, and walked up to the door. Ringy dingy the door bell. Told the owner excatly what you think and asked them if they have received any complaints. Got you game on with them instead of throwing them under the bus on this forum while it was doing 60 mph and not even give them a snack at the bus stop.

Besides I think most everyone here is very intelligent and understands all. I say most because there is always that 10%.
No reason for everyone to get all out of shape over it. Take care of your business and leave it alone.

[cappyjon431]

Bestmickey, I understand that you felt "ganged up on," I understand that you retaliated in anger, I understand that you have serious concerns about deed compliance enforcement (legitimately so), I understand that you have been here (TV) multiple times, I understand that sometimes life's events make it difficult for us to move/retire when we want to (the reason we moved to TV was to care for an older relative who is living here), and I certainly understand English (taught college English for many years).

What I don't understand is why you posted the offending homeowner's address in a public forum. Why is that important to the topic? What benefit is derived from posting it in your initial post? If someone was interested in "seeing the mess for themselves" couldn't you have just PM'd the address? How would you have felt if someone didn't like your landscaping (or felt it out of compliance) and then put your address out on the internet for literally millions to see? I have read all of the posts on this thread and have yet to see any decent justification of posting the address.

I can't speak for others on this board, or not what's going through their minds, but I would be willing to bet that the initial hostility to your post had a lot to do with you publishing someone's address on the internet. IMHO, that is wrong. Your post would have been much less hostile sounding if the address was left out and you had focused on the topic of deed compliance.

[bestmickey]

Originally Posted by cappyjon431

Bestmickey, I understand that you felt "ganged up on," I understand that you retaliated in anger, I understand that you have serious concerns about deed compliance enforcement (legitimately so), I understand that you have been here (TV) multiple times, I understand that sometimes life's events make it difficult for us to move/retire when we want to (the reason we moved to TV was to care for an older relative who is living here), and I certainly understand English (taught college English for many years).

What I don't understand is why you posted the offending homeowner's address in a public forum. Why is that important to the topic? What benefit is derived from posting it in your initial post? If someone was interested in "seeing the mess for themselves" couldn't you have just PM'd the address? How would you have felt if someone didn't like your landscaping (or felt it out of compliance) and then put your address out on the internet for literally millions to see? I have read all of the posts on this thread and have yet to see any decent justification of posting the address.

I can't speak for others on this board, or not what's going through their minds, but I would be willing to bet that the initial hostility to your post had a lot to do with you publishing someone's address on the internet. IMHO, that is wrong. Your post would have been much less hostile sounding if the address was left out and you had focused on the topic of deed compliance.

Cappy, the concern about the specific address, I can understand. In hindsight, I can agree that was over the top, and I am fine with the fact that the Moderator removed that from the post. After all, the o.p. from ~ a month ago gave enough of a direction that people could find the home if they wished. After all, that's how I was able to find it.

I appreciate that you address that specific issue (street address) the way you have. If that was the thing that made everyone attack me, it would have been nice if someone had addressed the issue (street address) in specifics, like you have. I have no problem admitting when I've made a mistake.

And, for those who wondered why I drove by this home, and so early in my vacation. It was something I planned to do while down here, after having read of the issue ~ one month ago. The first couple days I'm down here, that's all I do is ride around on the cart because I have to give some time for ankle swelling (from the flight) to go down, before I can spend a lot of time on my feet, golfing. So, I made the trip part of my ride.

This will be my last word on the topic. Those who want to continue to attack can. I don't and won't value your opinion anyway, and you're free to feel the same about me.

[PennBF]

Regarding the request that after seeing the property that I identify what I did not like or were deed restrictions. Under normal circumstances I would do that however there are so many that enjoy being negative, will not add to the discussion but add snyde remarks, shoot the messenger, etc that I would have to be crazy to give a specific opinion as to what I think are alleged violations or neighborhood eye sores. If someone wants to understand the condition go see the property for yourself and not rely on someone else and then attack them for "opinions". I continue to think that if the neighbors believe it is an eye sore or in violation of deed restrictions they should go to the next CDD meeting, call Community Watch, make a call on Janet Tutt, etc and that should/will take care of their concerns.

[dsned]

Take a drive over on the historic side --441, the lawns and MH look nice and neat, they do have some lawn ornaments but it just adds to the character of the place. Plus they are doing what has already been said, taking down the old and putting up new.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by dsned

Take a drive over on the historic side --441, the lawns and MH look nice and neat, they do have some lawn ornaments but it just adds to the character of the place. Plus they are doing what has already been said, taking down the old and putting up new.

In that area, there are no restrictions on lawn ornamentation. There are more restrictions between 441/27 and 466. Still more restrictions south of 466.

I understand that if someone makes a complaint, the home owner will be fined unless the offending object(s) are removed or amended. Some people have had to dig up and remove structures.

The powers that be have teeth. Just point them to who and what to bite.

I have heard people called "yard nazi's" on this forum but I think that if we all know the rules and follow the rules that our common hometown is kept looking nice and pretty. I had a nice neighbor when first we moved here who had MANY pieces of lawn art. Someone called the proper number. They are not there anymore and her yard is even more beautiful now.

Some people have not lived where there are deed restrictions before, some people don't think that it matters, some people don't care, some people will be annoyed when they are told that they have to change, and some people will be surprised and embarassed. But the rules are there and will be enforced. However, it is complaint driven.

Deed restrictions are good in my view.

[Taltarzac725]

I drove by this home on Livingston Loop and agreed it is in bad need of some new sod and does have a bench nearer the street than it probably should be.

The address is not needed though to locate it as long as you know it is on Livingston Loop it is very easy to locate just by driving down Livingston Loop.

Cannot see though why one house on this street would cause property values to drop. My guess is that the deed compliance people probably have already talked to these home owners.

[missypie]

I have this" vision in my head" that some very old lady lives in this house and she can no longer care for her home...remember this is just a vision.....She is shunned by her neighbors and her kids have nothing to do with her.

Now where I live, we would knock on the door, find out what the deal is and then gather up a slew of people and help her out....remember this is just my vision from where I am which is not yet in TV.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by missypie

I have this" vision in my head" that some very old lady lives in this house and she can no longer care for her home...remember this is just a vision.....She is shunned by her neighbors and her kids have nothing to do with her.

Now where I live, we would knock on the door, find out what the deal is and then gather up a slew of people and help her out....remember this is just my vision from where I am which is not yet in TV.

Only if the very old lady drives a SUV. There was a vehicle in the driveway when I drove by the morning. Actually except for the poorly taken sod the house looked quite nice. The problem just could be something like chinch bugs or a bad landscaper.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by bestmickey

My vacation recently started in TV. I am looking around at different areas of TV and since I recalled some previous posts regarding some complaints of deed compliance violations, I'm just driving around to view some of those noted. The first one I drove by is in Lynnhaven, Livingston Loop. To see what the issues were I'll give the link to some previous posts on the topic: When the build out ends? See Post #25, with some others after that.

If the above link doesn't work directly, I suggest you cut/paste it into your browser.

What an ugly mess this is! The people put some type of fake grass or an indoor/outdoor carpet on a section of the front lawn (I don't think that meets anyone's deed compliance based on other posts I've read of fake grass). The homeowners also put a pretty large rectangle of some sort of mulch, nothing of much design, and it's more towards the street than it is the home. There's a bench sitting out there. I'm not certain of all what deed compliance issues are there, but previous posters on the topic said there are many. If I understood things correctly, I think it was said that as the home currently "sits", there's not enough percentage of sod out front. All I can say is, it's ugly.

I fully recognize we all have different opinions of what is ugly versus what is beautiful. But as a potential (eventual) Villager, I'm wondering why, if these are deed compliance violations, why isn't The Village Deed Compliance Unit (or whatever the official name of the group is) doing something about it? After all, previous posters indicated that complaints were filed about the home. I sure would hate to have those people as my neighbor. As the saying goes, "There goes the neighborhood". Who else in the area nearby sees this mess (in my opinion), and will choose to do something similar of their own design? Heck, if deed compliance violations aren't dealt with, what's to stop anyone from doing whatever they want? I would think some property values in the nearby homes are going to suffer. I am personally in favor of regulations for maintaining homes. That insures that properties maintain their $$ value. That would be very important for me.

What can you do in such a situation, since it appears TV is not being responsive to complaints? I'm not a sue-happy person and never have sued anyone. But, my property values are important to me. If the Deed Compliance Unit doesn't resolve the problem(s), can you sue The Villages because of lack of enforcement? Or, what could you do?

If this situation was some much concern to you, why didn't you just call the appropriate people to find out why the property was in the state you observed? Posting the question as you did on TOTV didn't and hasn't given you answers you seeked.
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Phone: (352) 751-3939
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Janet Y. Tutt, District Manager
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[Posh 08]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

If this situation was some much concern to you, why didn't you just call the appropriate people to find out why the property was in the state you observed? Posting the question as you did on TOTV didn't and hasn't given you answers you seeked.
----------------------
Community Standards
Phone: 352-751-3912
Fax: 352-751-6707
Email Deed Compliance

Email Architectural Review

Business Hours:
8am to 5pm, EST
Monday – Friday
Excluding Holidays
----------------------
Village Community Development Districts (Main Office)
3201 Wedgewood Lane
The Villages, FL 32162
Phone: (352) 751-3939
Fax: (352) 753-6430

Janet Y. Tutt, District Manager
janet.tutt@districtgov.org

I don't see any harm in asking a question on the forum. Maybe it disrupts your day? If so, don't read it. Simple.