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Old 08-21-2017, 08:08 AM
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Well Wiotte,

Were you aware of the recent van killings by a terrorist cell in Barcelona? I don't think The Villages is a target, but I do think Isis hates Americans a lot. I don't think I am paranoid about terrorists, I think I am a realist. I don't think that extreme Islam is focused on us here in The Villages. I won't EVER forget nine eleven.


Yes, I know about the Barcelona attack and wouldn't feel uncomfortable visiting there. I know about the London and Paris attacks and feel the same. September 11th still troubles me and I admit would not feel at ease being in Manhattan at an time. Too many people, too many buildings with no egress other than tunnel or bridge. I can't afford my own helicopter and pad.


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Old 08-21-2017, 08:20 AM
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Want to prevent lone wolf terrorism? Promote a 'sense of belonging'

Promoting a "sense of belonging". Something all of us can do. A lot of this amounts to being a good Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, etc.

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The work of policymakers, then, is to figure out how to prevent these individuals from acting impulsively, on the basis of some unpredictable trigger. My sense is that the only way to do this is to build a sense of belonging that will prevent them from feeling destructive. If they feel alienated from their society and feel they don’t belong there, then they can also feel that other people deserve to suffer or die.

Following the logic of this approach, we can try to figure out which actions serve to reinforce belonging and which hinder it and then develop policies that build on the positive rather than the purely negative.
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Old 08-21-2017, 08:32 AM
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I guess it wouldn't bother me if the protection was installed at the squares. Better now than after the fact. No one knows where the next attack may come. Always be vigilant and report anything that may be suspect. The law enforcement are waiting for those type of calls. On the other hand, the square protectors will not stop a backpack attack, so watchful eyes may help there. Hopefully our gate people have been trained to watch for certain suspect vehicles and people that they would be able to report them prior to any attack. It is so sad that our country has come to this way of life. So much has changed since we were kids.
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OK, I say take a deep breath & grab yourself a cup of coffee, tea, soda, glass of milk, beer, or a stiff drink. Awwww, I feel much better now.......
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This thread is ridiculous. Paranoia is not normal, nor are people that conceal carry. Absolutely nuts.

I think Wiotte is right.

About what? First, although I don't think this thread is ridiculous, I don't personally feel that the odds of attack merit any of the proposed solutions, at least, not at this particular time (who knows what the future may hold). As far as his second statement regarding paranoia not being normal, by its very definition, his statement is superfluous. But, most importantly, to link paranoia to persons who conceal carry and call them "absolutely nuts" is not even worthy of an intelligent retort to such delusional thinking! He should be so lucky as to never need the courage and foresight of a permit holder when his life may be in peril!

Lastly, what some folks view as paranoia, some others view as situational awareness, a skill set which could keep one around longer to enjoy the fruits of one's labor ... just sayin'
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To me, this thread is simply a transparency into how you voted.
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When I was in the Navy and owned my own business--I felt personally responsible and made sure no-one got hurt on my watch and it happened not one cent was ever paid for workers comp and never had to make any injury reports
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This thread is ridiculous. Paranoia is not normal, nor are people that conceal carry. Absolutely nuts.



I think Wiotte is right.



About what? First, although I don't think this thread is ridiculous, I don't personally feel that the odds of attack merit any of the proposed solutions, at least, not at this particular time (who knows what the future may hold). As far as his second statement regarding paranoia not being normal, by its very definition, his statement is superfluous. But, most importantly, to link paranoia to persons who conceal carry and call them "absolutely nuts" is not even worthy of an intelligent retort to such delusional thinking! He should be so lucky as to never need the courage and foresight of a permit holder when his life may be in peril!



Lastly, what some folks view as paranoia, some others view as situational awareness, a skill set which could keep one around longer to enjoy the fruits of one's labor ... just sayin'


Well, you are just confirming my thoughts. I don't spend my days thinking that someone is out to harm me. That in and of itself is paranoid thinking. Any civilian that feels the need to conceal carry because of some unspecified threat they think they will encounter is as I said before is nuts. Just plain nuts to carry a weapon. To have such a state of mind is completely foreign to me. That may or
may not be an intelligent answer for you, I really don't care. Live or think anyway you want.


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Well, you are just confirming my thoughts. I don't spend my days thinking that someone is out to harm me. That in and of itself is paranoid thinking. Any civilian that feels the need to conceal carry because of some unspecified threat they think they will encounter is as I said before is nuts. Just plain nuts to carry a weapon. To have such a state of mind is completely foreign to me. That may or
may not be an intelligent answer for you, I really don't care. Live or think anyway you want.


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I don't feel the need to be armed. No one in my house does either. However I do support the right to do so, because real dangers change and change quickly. I feel safe here in The Villages and have felt safe all of my life in Ohio. But when the bad guys have guns, I feel rather good knowing that almost all of my neighbors have guns and know how to use them. Now just to stay on the right side of my neighbors.
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:47 AM
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After the events in Europe, IMHO our town squares should have bollards or heavy planters to prevent vehicles from entering the center of the squares where people dance , etc

Also, protective bollards should be erected to protect the entrances and box offices of the theaters where people line up to purchase tickets

We are very, very vulnerable-remember a terror attack happened in Orlando- 1 hour away
So agree!
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I don't feel the need to be armed. No one in my house does either. However I do support the right to do so, because real dangers change and change quickly. I feel safe here in The Villages and have felt safe all of my life in Ohio. But when the bad guys have guns, I feel rather good knowing that almost all of my neighbors have guns and know how to use them. Now just to stay on the right side of my neighbors.
GG..............I just ignored the Wio post. "Unfortunately", I've had to use my CC right and remove it from its holster and fire it. Fortunately it was the right thing to do, I've been told I saved lives, and was told by law enforcement it was justified. If some want to think it's nuts, or I'm nuts, they don't bother me or the two who thank me every year on the anniversary. Hope it doesn't happen again.
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Old 08-21-2017, 11:01 AM
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I disagree with those who think mowing down a group of someone's parents/grandparents is not a high priority target for terrorists/a lone madman. I'm sure the teenagers who were attacked in Manchester UK and all the random innocents would agree. Rather than assuming anything, we inside The Bubble should be prudent in protecting ourselves.
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Old 08-21-2017, 11:05 AM
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I am in SC as well. Did not specifically come for viewing the Eclipse but an added bonus...😎 Once I acquired the needed glasses to view!
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