Some sanctuary city mayors are saying they will continue to be sanctuary cities. Trump has threatened to cut off their federal funding. One goofball sheriff said the mayors should be arrested for violating federal law of harboring illegals.

However, there are some entire states who have no penalty for marijuana possession or usage. This is a violation of federal law. Where is the umbrage here? We have heard lots of REGRESSIVES on here saying smoking marijuana is the gateway to heroin and a life of crime.

We have not heard Trumpanzee say anything about cutting federal funding to those marijuana allowing states.

Originally Posted by Guest

We have not heard Trumpanzee say anything about cutting federal funding to those marijuana allowing states.

No Sandy we have not heard Trump address that issue, yet...

Do you suppose that was something that should have been done prior, like when the states legalized it years ago? I suspect the use of heroin has increased since the legalization, as it seems to be in the news all too often these days ($hit let me google that one Heroin use in U.S. reaches "alarming" 20-year high - CBS News). I believe the last president smoked pot...kind of explains why he did nothing to prevent the states legalization...hopefully Trump will do as he campaigned and address the drug problem. Madonna will probably throw on a pot leaf tee shirt...Get ready for some more protesting!

Change , good or bad, seems to deserve protesting!

Originally Posted by Guest

Some sanctuary city mayors are saying they will continue to be sanctuary cities. Trump has threatened to cut off their federal funding. One goofball sheriff said the mayors should be arrested for violating federal law of harboring illegals.

However, there are some entire states who have no penalty for marijuana possession or usage. This is a violation of federal law. Where is the umbrage here? We have heard lots of REGRESSIVES on here saying smoking marijuana is the gateway to heroin and a life of crime.

We have not heard Trumpanzee say anything about cutting federal funding to those marijuana allowing states.

Allowing people to smoke marijuana isn't even CLOSE to ENCOURAGING the destruction of the country by turning it into Mexico II.

One is a personal decision that affects the individual, the other will lead to the eventual destruction of America and our culture.

Originally Posted by Guest

Some sanctuary city mayors are saying they will continue to be sanctuary cities. Trump has threatened to cut off their federal funding. One goofball sheriff said the mayors should be arrested for violating federal law of harboring illegals.

However, there are some entire states who have no penalty for marijuana possession or usage. This is a violation of federal law. Where is the umbrage here? We have heard lots of REGRESSIVES on here saying smoking marijuana is the gateway to heroin and a life of crime.

We have not heard Trumpanzee say anything about cutting federal funding to those marijuana allowing states.

There is no argument in favor for allowing legal recreational use of marijuana but that argument does not belong in this topic.

Instead consider that Americans who commit felonies in this nation are tried, sentence and imprisoned. and yet we have government officials who continue to give sanctuary to illegal aliens.

Further, let any American in any other country on this earth commit a crime and you can bet they will be imprisoned . Heck in some of these nations the government will even make up an excuse and imprison an American well because they are Americans.

The insanity of government officials, defending criminals and granting them sanctuary just because they are illegal aliens, escapes progressives

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Originally Posted by Guest

Allowing people to smoke marijuana isn't even CLOSE to ENCOURAGING the destruction of the country by turning it into Mexico II.

One is a personal decision that affects the individual, the other will lead to the eventual destruction of America and our culture.

Some things just bear repeating:

"Allowing people to smoke marijuana isn't even CLOSE to ENCOURAGING the destruction of the country by turning it into Mexico II."

Originally Posted by Guest

There is no argument in favor for allowing legal recreational use of marijuana but that argument does not belong in this topic.

Instead consider that Americans who commit felonies in this nation are tried, sentence and imprisoned. and yet we have government officials who continue to give sanctuary to illegal aliens.

Further, let any American in any other country on this earth commit a crime and you can bet they will be imprisoned . Heck in some of these nations the government will even make up an excuse and imprison an American well because they are Americans.

The insanity of government officials, defending criminals and granting them sanctuary just because they are illegal aliens, escapes progressives

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However, BOTH are against Federal law, aren't they? Why should one Federal law be overlooked and the other prosecuted?

If you are in favor of an Illegal Immigrant Federal Force to round up ALL illegal immigrants, branding them on their forehead with a huge "I", and deportation- just say so.

You are putting yourself - once again - into the same mold as the resident racist, Don Baldwin. Congratulations!

Originally Posted by Guest

However, BOTH are against Federal law, aren't they? Why should one Federal law be overlooked and the other prosecuted?

If you are in favor of an Illegal Immigrant Federal Force to round up ALL illegal immigrants, branding them on their forehead with a huge "I", and deportation- just say so.

You are putting yourself - once again - into the same mold as the resident racist, Don Baldwin. Congratulations!

So you believe that illegally smoking dope equates to an illegal murdering an innocent American?

I did not say that the federal law should not be enforced against illegal use of marijuana. it should and I believe marijuana is harmful. However what I said is that the comparisons you use are not of equivalent value.

the shielding of illegals committing crimes is plain insanity and there is no rationale to justify such protections by any governmental official.

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I'm thinking that either we might see something from the feds that sanction states that allow marijuana sales or a new federal law loosening the restrictions on it. If that's the case, it doesn't have the priority of fixing our illegal immigration problem.

Please explain why these mayors should not be looked up for committing a federal crime? Are they not harboring fugitives from the federal law?

Originally Posted by Guest

However, BOTH are against Federal law, aren't they? Why should one Federal law be overlooked and the other prosecuted?

If you are in favor of an Illegal Immigrant Federal Force to round up ALL illegal immigrants, branding them on their forehead with a huge "I", and deportation- just say so.

You are putting yourself - once again - into the same mold as the resident racist, Don Baldwin. Congratulations!

Because one is just and the other is unjust...repelling invaders IS just...locking people up for a plant found in nature is not.

Why not brand them? They snuck in once, what makes you think they won't again? Muslims cut off hands for stealing...this is nothing. And it would make it very hard to sneak back in and get a job with that big I on their forehead. Because part of the "I" is you're banned, NEVER getting in legally.

I know where you're going with this...I'm NOT stupid... The Jews WERE a problem in Germany. Just like they do here in America...Jews run the banks, the media, entertainment, music, movies, TV, newspapers. They're like 3% of the population but own so much more of it. Their success got them noticed and blamed. I'm NOT saying they WERE and I'm NOT saying they weren't. I wasn't there and "his-story" can't be trusted. I've heard too much on BOTH sides to know what happened.

I do know too...that is wasn't JUST the Jews rounded up...EVERYONE they "didn't want" went to "work". And when they DIED, they were burned, not before. There's a LOT of propaganda on both sides.

You think it's GOOD that whites are being bred out, replaced by Hispanics? You think the country will IMPROVE when whites are the minority? Has it EVER gotten better with them running things?

Originally Posted by Guest

So you believe that illegally smoking dope equates to an illegal murdering an innocent American?

I did not say that the federal law should not be enforced against illegal use of marijuana. it should and I believe marijuana is harmful. However what I said is that the comparisons you use are not of equivalent value.

the shielding of illegals committing crimes is plain insanity and there is no rationale to justify such protections by any governmental official.

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It shouldn't be enforced and many states have already said they won't. It's unjust to deny people something they want that harms no one.

You're right...and they're becoming the majority meaning THEY will be voting in THEIR politicians...and that will be the end...Mexico II.

Originally Posted by Guest

However, BOTH are against Federal law, aren't they? Why should one Federal law be overlooked and the other prosecuted?

If you are in favor of an Illegal Immigrant Federal Force to round up ALL illegal immigrants, branding them on their forehead with a huge "I", and deportation- just say so.

You are putting yourself - once again - into the same mold as the resident racist, Don Baldwin. Congratulations!

To answer your first question, we have limited resources to enforce federal law so a list of priorities must be developed. I personally would not put marijuana at the same priority level as illegal immigration. Additionally, I think that we're probably going to see a softening of federal marijuana laws at some point so I can't see dealing with this right away.

In answer to your second question, I don't think that there are too many people that want that, including the president.

Illegal immigration is a complex problem because there are many different reasons that people are here illegally. Again, we must prioritize. Some people have been here for a long time and have simply forgotten to renew their 10 year visa. Those people need to be contacted and reminded that they need to renew. At that point they should be given the option of renewing or returning to their homeland. Depending on how late they are, a small fine might be appropriate.

A second group are those who were brought here by their parents at a very young age and are illegal through no fault of their own. Each of these cases needs to be reviewed on it's own merits. If the person has been a productive, contributing member of our society for a long time then we might offer them a chance to become legal and maybe even offer a pathway to citizenship. If however they do not have a job and/or have been involved in other crimes, then they should be punished and then deported. But as I said, each case has to be judged on it's own merits.

A third group may be people that came here illegally with no intent to do malice and are still here. These people also need to be looked at individually. Some of them have been contributing members of our society and they certainly deserve to be treated differently from those who are collecting welfare or committing crimes.

Then there are people who came here to work at low wage jobs such as picking fruit etc. We need to create a day visa program for these people so that they can go back and forth without a problem. These visas must be easy to obtain and inexpensive. Perhaps the employers should be made responsible for them and be made to pay for the visas since they are the ones benefitting from them. Or perhaps we could use federal prisoners to work in the fields to offset the cost of their incarceration and not have a day visa program.

Then there are criminals. The illegal drug trade from Mexico is huge. Anyone caught in this country selling or distributing drugs from Mexico needs to be imprisoned. Not only are the selling and distribution of illegal drugs crimes in their own right, but there are all kinds of other crimes that are caused by it. Any illegals caught stealing, robbing, or committing and other crime that can be shown to be connected to drugs must be treated the same as the drug dealers.

I would also seek permission from the Mexican government to send troops into Mexico to deal eradicate the drug lords. These organizations are as heavily armed as some small armies and the only way that they are going to be stopped is to send a powerful military after them. Police forces and border patrols cannot deal with them. We know who they are and where they are. Our military could easily destroy them. They pose a threat to this country and taking them out would be an act of self defense.

Anyone caught or committing planning acts of terror must be detained and imprisoned. I would send them to Guantanamo. Perhaps the drug dealers can go there as well. Personally, I would give them both the death penalty. They are either killing US citizens or planning to. Any illegal immigrant caught committing any other crime should be imprisoned and eventually deported.

No one is in favor of just rounding up all illegal immigrants and deporting them. This is a big problem and will take a very complex solution.

In the meantime, we need to stop the flow of illegals entering through our southern border and have the SJC properly define the 14th amendment so that we no longer have birthright citizenship. That alone would slow the rate of illegals coming here substantially. Yes, we need to build a wall and then find and seal all of the tunnels. Again, this is not a job for border security alone. We need tens of thousands of people down there doing this.

And by the way, this has nothing NOTHING to do with race. If white Canadians were doing the same thing, I would suggest the same actions.

Originally Posted by Guest

To answer your first question, we have limited resources to enforce federal law so a list of priorities must be developed. I personally would not put marijuana at the same priority level as illegal immigration. Additionally, I think that we're probably going to see a softening of federal marijuana laws at some point so I can't see dealing with this right away.

In answer to your second question, I don't think that there are too many people that want that, including the president.

Illegal immigration is a complex problem because there are many different reasons that people are here illegally. Again, we must prioritize. Some people have been here for a long time and have simply forgotten to renew their 10 year visa. Those people need to be contacted and reminded that they need to renew. At that point they should be given the option of renewing or returning to their homeland. Depending on how late they are, a small fine might be appropriate.

A second group are those who were brought here by their parents at a very young age and are illegal through no fault of their own. Each of these cases needs to be reviewed on it's own merits. If the person has been a productive, contributing member of our society for a long time then we might offer them a chance to become legal and maybe even offer a pathway to citizenship. If however they do not have a job and/or have been involved in other crimes, then they should be punished and then deported. But as I said, each case has to be judged on it's own merits.

A third group may be people that came here illegally with no intent to do malice and are still here. These people also need to be looked at individually. Some of them have been contributing members of our society and they certainly deserve to be treated differently from those who are collecting welfare or committing crimes.

Then there are people who came here to work at low wage jobs such as picking fruit etc. We need to create a day visa program for these people so that they can go back and forth without a problem. These visas must be easy to obtain and inexpensive. Perhaps the employers should be made responsible for them and be made to pay for the visas since they are the ones benefitting from them. Or perhaps we could use federal prisoners to work in the fields to offset the cost of their incarceration and not have a day visa program.

Then there are criminals. The illegal drug trade from Mexico is huge. Anyone caught in this country selling or distributing drugs from Mexico needs to be imprisoned. Not only are the selling and distribution of illegal drugs crimes in their own right, but there are all kinds of other crimes that are caused by it. Any illegals caught stealing, robbing, or committing and other crime that can be shown to be connected to drugs must be treated the same as the drug dealers.

I would also seek permission from the Mexican government to send troops into Mexico to deal eradicate the drug lords. These organizations are as heavily armed as some small armies and the only way that they are going to be stopped is to send a powerful military after them. Police forces and border patrols cannot deal with them. We know who they are and where they are. Our military could easily destroy them. They pose a threat to this country and taking them out would be an act of self defense.

Anyone caught or committing planning acts of terror must be detained and imprisoned. I would send them to Guantanamo. Perhaps the drug dealers can go there as well. Personally, I would give them both the death penalty. They are either killing US citizens or planning to. Any illegal immigrant caught committing any other crime should be imprisoned and eventually deported.

No one is in favor of just rounding up all illegal immigrants and deporting them. This is a big problem and will take a very complex solution.

In the meantime, we need to stop the flow of illegals entering through our southern border and have the SJC properly define the 14th amendment so that we no longer have birthright citizenship. That alone would slow the rate of illegals coming here substantially. Yes, we need to build a wall and then find and seal all of the tunnels. Again, this is not a job for border security alone. We need tens of thousands of people down there doing this.

And by the way, this has nothing NOTHING to do with race. If white Canadians were doing the same thing, I would suggest the same actions.

You're IGNORING the FACT that minorities are ALREADY the majority below age 7.

No you wouldn't because you'd NEVER know they were Canadians. Because Canadians look, act, speak like we do...they're the SAME as us...whereas blacks/hispanics do not and are NOT the same as us.

You're sitting on your hands waiting for a "just" solution and there isn't one. They're taking over...and when they do...America is done. The great experiment will have failed. We couldn't keep it...we gave it away...to THEM. Ignorant 3rd worlders...because bleeding heart women felt sorry for them!

Originally Posted by Guest

So you believe that illegally smoking dope equates to an illegal murdering an innocent American?

I did not say that the federal law should not be enforced against illegal use of marijuana. it should and I believe marijuana is harmful. However what I said is that the comparisons you use are not of equivalent value.

the shielding of illegals committing crimes is plain insanity and there is no rationale to justify such protections by any governmental official.

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You are now claiming that an illegal who murders an American or commits other crimes against property or persons while living in a sanctuary city will not be prosecuted? They may not be turned over to ICE but they certainly will be prosecuted for crimes .

So nice to see that you are now openly agreeing with Don Baldwin. Glad you came out of your closet and in for your measurements for your white sheet.

Originally Posted by Guest

You are now claiming that an illegal who murders an American or commits other crimes against property or persons while living in a sanctuary city will not be prosecuted? They may not be turned over to ICE but they certainly will be prosecuted for crimes .

So nice to see that you are now openly agreeing with Don Baldwin. Glad you came out of your closet and in for your measurements for your white sheet.

Sandy - I read Rubi's post and I don't see any claim "that an illegal who murders an American or commits other crimes against property or persons while living in a sanctuary city will not be prosecuted...how did you arrive to that?

I do know the girl that was killed in San Fransisco was killed by a illegal immigrant that had been arrested days earlier and was released, but I believe he was prosecuted for the murder. A point to be made against the sanctuary cities is this murder most likely would not have happened if they turned him over to ICE. I am sure you can agree it is a shame this lawful citizen lost her life to a person that should not have even been in the country? A google search brought up several of these type stories...

I feel it is wrong to harbor these illegal immigrants, they should be deported and then they can apply for citizenship, the way the legal immigrants have all done. If these cities want to disregard the law, then I don't want to reward them with my tax money. Maybe the illegal immigrants can pay the difference??

Originally Posted by Guest

Sandy - I read Rubi's post and I don't see any claim "that an illegal who murders an American or commits other crimes against property or persons while living in a sanctuary city will not be prosecuted...how did you arrive to that?

I do know the girl that was killed in San Fransisco was killed by a illegal immigrant that had been arrested days earlier and was released, but I believe he was prosecuted for the murder. A point to be made against the sanctuary cities is this murder most likely would not have happened if they turned him over to ICE. I am sure you can agree it is a shame this lawful citizen lost her life to a person that should not have even been in the country? A google search brought up several of these type stories...

I feel it is wrong to harbor these illegal immigrants, they should be deported and then they can apply for citizenship, the way the legal immigrants have all done. If these cities want to disregard the law, then I don't want to reward them with my tax money. Maybe the illegal immigrants can pay the difference??

You are splitting hairs and accusing me of claims that I did not make.

First you make this a racist issue while I spoke only to criminal acts.

Secondly you ignore the fact that cities such as San Francisco hide illegals and by hiding them they are free to commit crimes when they should have been deported...and if they had been deported people like that young lady killed in San Francisco would not have become a victim .Now go back and practice your alinsky

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Originally Posted by DirtBag

Sandy - I read Rubi's post and I don't see any claim "that an illegal who murders an American or commits other crimes against property or persons while living in a sanctuary city will not be prosecuted...how did you arrive to that?

I do know the girl that was killed in San Fransisco was killed by a illegal immigrant that had been arrested days earlier and was released, but I believe he was prosecuted for the murder. A point to be made against the sanctuary cities is this murder most likely would not have happened if they turned him over to ICE. I am sure you can agree it is a shame this lawful citizen lost her life to a person that should not have even been in the country? A google search brought up several of these type stories...

I feel it is wrong to harbor these illegal immigrants, they should be deported and then they can apply for citizenship, the way the legal immigrants have all done. If these cities want to disregard the law, then I don't want to reward them with my tax money. Maybe the illegal immigrants can pay the difference??

Originally Posted by RubiTHECon

You are splitting hairs and accusing me of claims that I did not make.

First you make this a racist issue while I spoke only to criminal acts.

Secondly you ignore the fact that cities such as San Francisco hide illegals and by hiding them they are free to commit crimes when they should have been deported...and if they had been deported people like that young lady killed in San Francisco would not have become a victim .Now go back and practice your alinsky

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And you're so dumb, you quoted the wrong post...and are attacking your butt buddy DirtBag.

Thanks for the guffaw.

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