Originally Posted by dklassen

I’ll tell you something that’s scary if not outright dangerous. Our current chain of command. Obama, Biden and Pelosi.

My dog's chain is stronger than that!

Yoda

A member of the loyal opposition

Originally Posted by dklassen

I’ll tell you something that’s scary if not outright dangerous. Our current chain of command. Obama, Biden and Pelosi.

Bush - Cheney - Hastert wasn't exactly a dream team chain of command either. Maybe one of these days the lineup will improve.

Originally Posted by Keedy

Biden received five deferments from the draft and thus never had to serve in Vietnam. After the fifth deferment Biden was not eligible for service because of childhood asthma, an ailment that had never been previously disclosed. In Biden’s stories about his life (in his book Promises to Keep) he discussed having an active childhood and playing football and other sports. There is no mention of asthma and no mention of any limited ability. Since Biden voted FOR the 2002 invasion of Iraq but received five deferments from service, does that make him a chicken hawk?

Funny how the press likes to talk about Cheney's deferments but Biden's deferments are off limits.

Keedy

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Originally Posted by BobKat1

Bush - Cheney - Hastert wasn't exactly a dream team chain of command either. Maybe one of these days the lineup will improve.

Say what you want, Cheney may not have had the personality of a Clinton, Obama, or Biden, but I would feel very safe with him as my Commander In Chief.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

It's scary to think that this guy was one heartbeat away from the most powerful political position in the world for eight whole years.

Is he planning a book or even on a book tour? Usually it's some pecuniary interest that results in people running off at the mouth as he's been doing.

Oh no, another politician writing a book (Audacity of Hope, It takes a Village) and running his (her) mouth off. The "audacity" of him.

Keedy

This thread has morphed from someone suggesting that Dick Cheney shut up to comparisons and criticisms of the current VP, to an analysis of the chain of command, one iteration of which had Denny Hastert in the mix.

I responded early on, saying that, yes I believe that Cheney had eight years to say his piece and do his thing, now it's time for him to retire and be quiet, IMHO.

On the other subjects introduced to this thread, I guess it's worthwhile putting in my two cents...

• Cheney was devious and dangerous, maneuvering to achieve his personal purposes even if it meant undermining and subverting those of his President, who he was supposed to be serving.
• While Cheney was devious, clandestine and self-serving, Biden is at least loyal, even if a little unpredictable at times. At least he's honest and forthright. If if ever got to him in the succession, I'm convinced that America would be a safer and more respected place than it would have been if Cheney was the commander-in-chief..
• I don't like the current third in succession any better than I liked it when the old wrestling coach, Denny Hastert, was third in line. Either Pelosi or Hastert make for a sad commentary on the quality of political leadership available to lead our country.

Let the hollering and yelling begin.

There has been a tradition as old as dirt that a previous president refrain from criticizing the present Commander in Chief. Unfortunately, Jimi Carter decided to stop this tradition and shoot his mouth off every where he went. Apparently, the lamest president in recent memory found it easier to criticize then to actually govern.
Dick Cheney has every right to voice his opinion especially since the current occupant of the White House does not know how to accept responsibility and blame everything wrong on his predecessor.
Keedy

The last time I checked the First Amendment, there was no proviso that previous national office-holders were to be muzzled upon leaving office. They used to have the same freedom-of-speech rights as any other citizen, and I don't think that's changed.....

Is there any good reason why a previous national office-holder's free speech right should be lawfully suspended?

And after Pelosi comes Sen. Byrd and Sec. Clinton. Lord help us all.

Originally Posted by SteveZ

The last time I checked the First Amendment, there was no proviso that previous national office-holders were to be muzzled upon leaving office. They used to have the same freedom-of-speech rights as any other citizen, and I don't think that's changed.....

Is there any good reason why a previous national office-holder's free speech right should be lawfully suspended?

No, there is no reason for free speech to be denied to a previous administration member. All bets were off when Carter violated the unwritten courtesy of criticizing the present administration.
Also, I don't remember a current administration criticizing and blaming the past administration for everything that is going wrong with his own policies like Obama has and still is doing.

If you could not state it when your if office, dont state it now.
If you did not voice your opionion as you felt you should have while in office Please dont now..

Bottom line,, No rule, no law broken, no one cares, but since you asked, he runs off more now then he did then.. What did he have a pillow shoved in his mouth or somethng then?

I so rarely look at this topic, because it's always a bunch of nice people yelling and screaming at each other!

Personally, I think Mr. Cheney should keep his mouth shut, just the way Mr. Bush is doing. I'm not sure that either of them have much gray matter between their ears, but Mr. Bush seems to be taking an appropriate path.

I think wholeheartedly with Villages Kahuna.

SWR

Originally Posted by GMONEY

If you could not state it when your if office, dont state it now.
If you did not voice your opionion as you felt you should have while in office Please dont now..

Bottom line,, No rule, no law broken, no one cares, but since you asked, he runs off more now then he did then.. What did he have a pillow shoved in his mouth or somethng then?

I agree. Maybe Mr. Cheney wouldn't have to say anything if the press did their job. As long as Obama runs his mouth off and blames Bush... It takes a man with a weak morale compass to blame others.
Keedy

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Cheney's probably the One-Eyed Jack


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Originally Posted by Keedy

I agree. Maybe Mr. Cheney wouldn't have to say anything if the press did their job. As long as Obama runs his mouth off and blames Bush... It takes a man with a weak morale compass to blame others.
Keedy

The only thing I will say about that is, wasnt Obama that got us here!!!!!!!! Cheney doesnt want to go down looking bad. Regaurdless of what Obama has done since taking office, Cheney would still have something to say. The man wanted to be the man, then he should of ran for president. He wants that title so bad!!!
That is his downfall, he just dont know when to pipe down and let the tide roll on.