[Normal]

Opened up Zillow today and saw 623 homes for sale in the Villages. Yes that number is high for just Zillow, but then something new.

Hammock Oaks Townhomes Townhomes | Main-Level Owner'''s Suites Available for Sale | Ryan Homes

It seems that Ryan Homes anlmost andjacent to the Villages are touting their new townhouses as custom built with amenities $200,000 one floor living yaada yaada…. But then


They use Villages hot spots for their sales pitch! “Just minutes to The Lighthouse in Sumter Landing” or nearby “Enjoy Spanish Springs…”. A different builder riding the coattails of the Developer.

Will this be a positive or negative for us? Is this even legal? Certainly not ethical.

[retiredguy123]

Personally, I don't see anything illegal or unethical about advertising amenities that are open to the public.

[Michael 61]

It’s legal - squares are open to the public / unless the developer wants to do an “about face” and fence in the square areas and scan resident ID’s for entry.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Normal

Opened up Zillow today and saw 623 homes for sale in the Villages. Yes that number is high for just Zillow, but then something new.

Hammock Oaks Townhomes Townhomes | Main-Level Owner'''s Suites Available for Sale | Ryan Homes

It seems that Ryan Homes anlmost andjacent to the Villages are touting their new townhouses as custom built with amenities $200,000 one floor living yaada yaada…. But then


They use Villages hot spots for their sales pitch! “Just minutes to The Lighthouse in Sumter Landing” or nearby “Enjoy Spanish Springs…”. A different builder riding the coattails of the Developer.

Will this be a positive or negative for us? Is this even legal? Certainly not ethical.

In very early years and in the newer squares Businesses rely on “Outsiders” for income especially off season. I can remember In April 07 going to SS theatre and 1/2 of the room was under 30. (Not a children movie) The square had mix of older and much younger people everywhere, with restaurants packed, people shopping and of course the line to Enter KBs.
We never spent much time in LSL, but few time we did there was always a younger crown.
Brownwood has always had young gens, mixing with residents, in restaurants and squares.

Squares are public, bet the business are thrilled to have more “Outside people spending money”

[DrMack]

I believe this is a smart move. Ryan homes is not a small time builder. They know what they are doing and I’m sure their legal office went over everything with a fine tooth comb.

[retiredguy123]

I think the developer should build more townhouses, condos, and apartments. A single family house is fine for a couple, but not as convenient for a person living alone.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I think the developer should build more townhouses, condos, and apartments. A single family house is fine for a couple, but not as convenient for a person living alone.

NIMBY…but I wouldn’t want them near me

[Boomer]

Ryan Homes has been in business since 1948.

If you are from an area of the country where a lot of bi-levels were built in the 1970s, that could have been Ryan Homes

in the early 70s, the first of the boomers were entering the housing market. The brick ranches built in the 50s and 60s needed a big footprint, a big basement and a long roof.

Then came the bi-levels with a design that could get the needed rooms and the garage all in under a small roof and built on a small foundation on small subdivision lots.

In the 70s, Ryan built for the first home market. I don't know if Ryan got into any of the McMansion subdivisions of the 80s and 90s -- when boomers could afford bigger houses and the tax law was in effect that made cap gains on real estate taxable unless reinvested in a bigger house. (That law changed in the late 90s and many middle class people benefited from being able to keep real estate profit when downsizing from bigger homes.)

And I think somewhere along the line, Ryan did a lot of those 4 bedrooms, 2 and a half baths, brick on the bottom, siding on the top, two-stories when boomers started having families.

I laughed when I saw Ryan Homes was moving in next door to TV and with condos with first floor living. Looks to me like Ryan is following the boomers like they have through all these years of finding a need and filling it.

(They should have done that first floor living thing when they were building condos in the 70s. But that cost more to do and nobody seemed to think the boomers might get old someday.)

Rock on......

Boomer

[BrianL99]

As others have pointed out, Ryan Homes has been around a long time and they're not rookies.

They're doing what every large home builder would do and should do ... pointing out the convenience and benefits of their location.

The Villages doesn't own the squares or the environment, nor most of the convenient retail stores (they may own the brick & mortar, but they depend on non-Villagers to spend money).

If you build homes near the ocean, would you point out it's location? If you built homes, 5 miles from the Mall of America, would you promote its proximity to shopping?

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

As others have pointed out, Ryan Homes has been around a long time and they're not rookies.

They're doing what every large home builder would do and should do ... pointing out the convenience and benefits of their location.

The Villages doesn't own the squares or the environment, nor most of the convenient retail stores (they may own the brick & mortar, but they depend on non-Villagers to spend money).

If you build homes near the ocean, would you point out it's location? If you built homes, 5 miles from the Mall of America, would you promote its proximity to shopping?

But you miss out on all the clubs here so not for us.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

But you miss out on all the clubs here so not for us.

Some independent living facilities have an agreement with The Villages for the residents to get a Villages ID card and use the amenities. Three of them are Freedom Pointe, Sumter Senior Living, and Watercrest. This may be possible for the new townhouses.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Some independent living facilities have an agreement with The Villages for the residents to get a Villages ID card and use the amenities. Three of them are Freedom Pointe, Sumter Senior Living, and Watercrest. This may be possible for the new townhouses.

Are those independent living facilities independent of the Villages or are do the facilities sit on Villages property? (Google maps and cart trails imply they are on Villages property)

Hammock Oaks is not on Villages property, it is just one of several new developments in this area. Is there any reason to believe *ANYONE* that is not a Villages resident (residing on Villages property) is eligible for a Villages Resident ID? As others have mentioned, it it just good business practice to advertise the local attractions when selling a home and the squares are local attractions.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Are those independent living facilities independent of the Villages or are do the facilities sit on Villages property? (Google maps and cart trails imply they are on Villages property)

Hammock Oaks is not on Villages property, it is just one of several new developments in this area. Is there any reason to believe *ANYONE* that is not a Villages resident (residing on Villages property) is eligible for a Villages Resident ID? As others have mentioned, it it just good business practice to advertise the local attractions when selling a home and the squares are local attractions.

I don't think any of them are located on Villages property, but I don't know the actual Villages property boundaries. Freedom Pointe is on El Camino Real, Sumter Senior Living is on Rt 466A and Watercrest is on Rt 466. I think they have an agreement with The Villages to pay the amenity fees so their residents can use the golf courses, rec centers, and other amenities. As far as I know, these are private facilities and not owned or operated by The Villages.

[vintageogauge]

Ryan is a low end low quality builder and their homes show it. Everything is at the bare minimum to stay within codes except what they can slip in and hide that doesn't meet code. They've been around forever and are successful due to their low budget pricing and El Cheapo materials and finishings.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

Ryan is a low end low quality builder and their homes show it. Everything is at the bare minimum to stay within codes except what they can slip in and hide that doesn't meet code. They've been around forever and are successful due to their low budget pricing and El Cheapo materials and finishings.

I don't think that Ryan is much different from most other builders. They try to meet the building codes, but I can't think of any codes that a builder would want to exceed. Before moving to The Villages, I lived in a high end subdivision in Northern Virginia, but I would rate The Villages construction quality as better than most builders in Virginia.